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	<title>Comments on: Economics Board Games? Settlers of Catan</title>
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		<title>By: Whit Stevens</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2006/07/27/economics_board/#comment-3648</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops, I was wrong when I said there&#039;s an online version of Catan.  I think I was thinking of Ticket to Ride. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/9209
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I was wrong when I said there&#8217;s an online version of Catan.  I think I was thinking of Ticket to Ride. <a href="http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/9209" rel="nofollow">http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/9209</a></p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2006/07/27/economics_board/#comment-3647</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would recommend a few other board games that have the same niceties as Settlers, but with less dependence on chance (dice). Tigris and Euphrates and Princes of Florence (Florin?) are both really great for analyzing economic type decisions and playing based on those. Both are for 3 or more players, however. Anything by Rainer Knizia is usually good.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend a few other board games that have the same niceties as Settlers, but with less dependence on chance (dice). Tigris and Euphrates and Princes of Florence (Florin?) are both really great for analyzing economic type decisions and playing based on those. Both are for 3 or more players, however. Anything by Rainer Knizia is usually good.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2006/07/27/economics_board/#comment-3645</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 10:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ammonium: No trading??

Heavens, you are not playing the game correctly :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ammonium: No trading??</p>
<p>Heavens, you are not playing the game correctly <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Knitress N</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2006/07/27/economics_board/#comment-3644</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not quite.  There&#039;s a kid version of Catan that Katie loves.

So maybe I should buy the adult version for us&#039;uns?

And your Landis post is FABULOUS.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite.  There&#8217;s a kid version of Catan that Katie loves.</p>
<p>So maybe I should buy the adult version for us&#8217;uns?</p>
<p>And your Landis post is FABULOUS.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2006/07/27/economics_board/#comment-3642</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ask N. -- her nieces *love* Catan.  I think there are variants as well.

Hey, has the KP Spouse tried Set yet?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask N. &#8212; her nieces *love* Catan.  I think there are variants as well.</p>
<p>Hey, has the KP Spouse tried Set yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Ammonium</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2006/07/27/economics_board/#comment-3640</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I played once with a bunch of people who had already played several times before. There was no trading between players. This was a six player game, so maybe that was the problem. Or maybe the problem is that this game isn&#039;t so simple, especially after having a few beers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played once with a bunch of people who had already played several times before. There was no trading between players. This was a six player game, so maybe that was the problem. Or maybe the problem is that this game isn&#8217;t so simple, especially after having a few beers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ammonium</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2006/07/27/economics_board/#comment-3641</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I played once with a bunch of people who had already played several times before. There was no trading between players. This was a six player game, so maybe that was the problem. Or maybe the problem is that this game isn&#039;t so simple, especially after having a few beers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played once with a bunch of people who had already played several times before. There was no trading between players. This was a six player game, so maybe that was the problem. Or maybe the problem is that this game isn&#8217;t so simple, especially after having a few beers.</p>
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		<title>By: Whit Stevens</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2006/07/27/economics_board/#comment-3638</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Catan is pretty fun.  It&#039;s about trading, probability and diversification.  You want to hold productive resources, but it&#039;s also important to be diversified.  There&#039;s really quite a bit of strategy to the game.  And as in life, you also need luck.

My friend plays online all the time (if you purchase the game, you get a lifetime online membership I believe).

The same friend gave me Powergrid for my birthday (as I work in the energy industry).  Haven&#039;t played yet... looks pretty complex.

More on powergrid here: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/2651

By the way, boardgamegeek is a top gaming site (if you didn&#039;t know about it already).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catan is pretty fun.  It&#8217;s about trading, probability and diversification.  You want to hold productive resources, but it&#8217;s also important to be diversified.  There&#8217;s really quite a bit of strategy to the game.  And as in life, you also need luck.</p>
<p>My friend plays online all the time (if you purchase the game, you get a lifetime online membership I believe).</p>
<p>The same friend gave me Powergrid for my birthday (as I work in the energy industry).  Haven&#8217;t played yet&#8230; looks pretty complex.</p>
<p>More on powergrid here: <a href="http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/2651" rel="nofollow">http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/2651</a></p>
<p>By the way, boardgamegeek is a top gaming site (if you didn&#8217;t know about it already).</p>
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		<title>By: OneEyedMan</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2006/07/27/economics_board/#comment-3637</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Setters has a few other things going for it too. First, no one is ever eliminated, so everyone plays until the end. Second, resources are scarce and tradable, so lots of player interaction occurs. Third, the map is reconfigured with each play and there are several roads to victory, so each time the optimal strategy is different. But it isn&#039;t a pure libertarian utopia, their are thieves and armies to munch on your resources.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Setters has a few other things going for it too. First, no one is ever eliminated, so everyone plays until the end. Second, resources are scarce and tradable, so lots of player interaction occurs. Third, the map is reconfigured with each play and there are several roads to victory, so each time the optimal strategy is different. But it isn&#8217;t a pure libertarian utopia, their are thieves and armies to munch on your resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Sacha</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2006/07/27/economics_board/#comment-3635</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do yourself a favour and buy the game.  It can only be played with four players.  There is a two and three player variant, and also an expansion set for 6 players, but they all PALE in comparison to the original game.

The game is very well balanced and involves economic/resource management, statistics, and game theory.

If you want a free (software) copy of half-decent AI players, goto &lt;a href=&quot;http://sourceforge.net/projects/jsettlers&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sourceforge.net/projects/jsettlers &lt;/a&gt; and download the java client/server for free.  Also on the download link is the Ph.D thesis that the developer did called &quot;Real-time Decision Making for Adversarial Environments Using a Plan-based Heuristic&quot; which is a rather fascinating read.

There are also a few sites that can be found with a minimum of Googling that you can find active games being played with this java client.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do yourself a favour and buy the game.  It can only be played with four players.  There is a two and three player variant, and also an expansion set for 6 players, but they all PALE in comparison to the original game.</p>
<p>The game is very well balanced and involves economic/resource management, statistics, and game theory.</p>
<p>If you want a free (software) copy of half-decent AI players, goto <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/jsettlers" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/jsettlers" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/projects/jsettlers</a>  and download the java client/server for free.  Also on the download link is the Ph.D thesis that the developer did called &#8220;Real-time Decision Making for Adversarial Environments Using a Plan-based Heuristic&#8221; which is a rather fascinating read.</p>
<p>There are also a few sites that can be found with a minimum of Googling that you can find active games being played with this java client.</p>
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