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	<title>Comments on: Airport kabuki: Bruce Schneier on &#8220;security theater&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: lkiesling</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/01/21/airport-kabuki-bruce-schneier-on-security-theater/#comment-7222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lkiesling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jay,

You should do some research before you say such things. Bruce Schneier is one of the most knowledgeable, analytical, technical security experts in the world, and has been so for over two decades. His work in cryptography is unsurpassed. And his criticism of the TSA is entirely consistent with my experience with the TSA, and the experiences of many others.

I stand by my claim that shoe removal requirement is ludicrous. It symbolizes the TSA&#039;s inability to perform relative risk assessment *from the point of view of the traveling public*. It fails to take into account the inconvenience and time lost to all of us, in return for which we get &quot;protection&quot; from a highly improbable and low-impact event. It also fails to take into account the heightened sensitivity of air passengers to unusual behavior on the plane, and the fact that we&#039;d pound the snot out of an attempted shoe bomber. In fact, isn&#039;t that what happened to Reid?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
<p>You should do some research before you say such things. Bruce Schneier is one of the most knowledgeable, analytical, technical security experts in the world, and has been so for over two decades. His work in cryptography is unsurpassed. And his criticism of the TSA is entirely consistent with my experience with the TSA, and the experiences of many others.</p>
<p>I stand by my claim that shoe removal requirement is ludicrous. It symbolizes the TSA&#8217;s inability to perform relative risk assessment *from the point of view of the traveling public*. It fails to take into account the inconvenience and time lost to all of us, in return for which we get &#8220;protection&#8221; from a highly improbable and low-impact event. It also fails to take into account the heightened sensitivity of air passengers to unusual behavior on the plane, and the fact that we&#8217;d pound the snot out of an attempted shoe bomber. In fact, isn&#8217;t that what happened to Reid?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Clip</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/01/21/airport-kabuki-bruce-schneier-on-security-theater/#comment-7135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Clip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t be sucked into this guy&#039;s views - he likely has a hidden agenda and a personal axe to grind with TSA.  He was a TSA consultant some time ago, so his perspective is very much in question, as far as I&#039;m concerned.  He&#039;s also got a book out, and he&#039;s been making the rounds on the media.  I suspect a great amount of his criticism of TSA is more geared towards advancement of his own book sales than any concern for safety or security.  (Do you find it odd that he&#039;s such a harsh critic of an agency he did consultancy work for?  I guess his consultancy work didn&#039;t pan out, eh?)  And as far as the author of THIS article calling the shoe policy &quot;ludicrous&quot; when it&#039;s been established that Richard Reid&#039;s shoebomb was a functional explosive device?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be sucked into this guy&#8217;s views &#8211; he likely has a hidden agenda and a personal axe to grind with TSA.  He was a TSA consultant some time ago, so his perspective is very much in question, as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  He&#8217;s also got a book out, and he&#8217;s been making the rounds on the media.  I suspect a great amount of his criticism of TSA is more geared towards advancement of his own book sales than any concern for safety or security.  (Do you find it odd that he&#8217;s such a harsh critic of an agency he did consultancy work for?  I guess his consultancy work didn&#8217;t pan out, eh?)  And as far as the author of THIS article calling the shoe policy &#8220;ludicrous&#8221; when it&#8217;s been established that Richard Reid&#8217;s shoebomb was a functional explosive device?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Giberson</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/01/21/airport-kabuki-bruce-schneier-on-security-theater/#comment-7112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Giberson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Schneier&#039;s point gets a little jumbled by his working out of the conventional, but muddled, distinction between &quot;property rights&quot; and &quot;human rights&quot; (here reduced to just &quot;property&quot; and &quot;rights&quot;).

By &quot;Long term, we need to fix that,&quot; Schneier may be suggesting that the property right in data about a person should be held by the person to whom the data pertain (drawing on Cheryl&#039;s phrasing).

While the statement may be appealing on the surface, it leaves a large range of issues unsettled and I think it is unlikely to be the best division of rights. I&#039;m more in favor of the current status quo division of rights, which I take to allow both parties a (non-exclusive) right to any data they collect about the transaction. Of course, parties should be free to negotiate other allocations of property rights in any data collected from prospective transactions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Schneier&#8217;s point gets a little jumbled by his working out of the conventional, but muddled, distinction between &#8220;property rights&#8221; and &#8220;human rights&#8221; (here reduced to just &#8220;property&#8221; and &#8220;rights&#8221;).</p>
<p>By &#8220;Long term, we need to fix that,&#8221; Schneier may be suggesting that the property right in data about a person should be held by the person to whom the data pertain (drawing on Cheryl&#8217;s phrasing).</p>
<p>While the statement may be appealing on the surface, it leaves a large range of issues unsettled and I think it is unlikely to be the best division of rights. I&#8217;m more in favor of the current status quo division of rights, which I take to allow both parties a (non-exclusive) right to any data they collect about the transaction. Of course, parties should be free to negotiate other allocations of property rights in any data collected from prospective transactions.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Morgan</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/01/21/airport-kabuki-bruce-schneier-on-security-theater/#comment-7109</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheryl Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think what Bruce is getting at is that people who collect data about others assume that the data is *their* property, and not ultimately the property of the people to whom the data pertains.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what Bruce is getting at is that people who collect data about others assume that the data is *their* property, and not ultimately the property of the people to whom the data pertains.</p>
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