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	<title>Comments on: A smart grid is a transactive grid (Part 2 of 5)</title>
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		<title>By: knowledgeproblem</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/03/03/a-smart-grid-is-a-transactive-grid-part-2-of-5/#comment-7663</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[knowledgeproblem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi kman,

If you follow the GridWise Architecture Council and Olympic Peninsula project links that I provided in the first post, you will see that I work with a team of engineers and IT folks, and we all have a lot of experience in various parts of grid architecture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi kman,</p>
<p>If you follow the GridWise Architecture Council and Olympic Peninsula project links that I provided in the first post, you will see that I work with a team of engineers and IT folks, and we all have a lot of experience in various parts of grid architecture.</p>
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		<title>By: kman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uhmm... Did Lynne ever design or work on an electricity grid? Why does everyone assume it&#039;s easy to make every grid as smooth as a fiberoptic network by just throwing more money at it? Oh it&#039;s because they have never studied engineering that&#039;s why.

I am also looking forward to electricity prices jumping up to $1,000,000 per kilowatt next time we have some sort of a crisis/disaster. Instead of rushing to the grocery store to get canned food, we&#039;ll all go home and recharge our batteries.

The gazillion dollar question on my mind is: What is the benefit of all this? Are our household electricity costs too high? So once this smart stuff is there, I should expect to pay at most like $5 per month for electricity, right? Because if I&#039;m still gonna pay the same $50, I am voting NO for the smart grid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhmm&#8230; Did Lynne ever design or work on an electricity grid? Why does everyone assume it&#8217;s easy to make every grid as smooth as a fiberoptic network by just throwing more money at it? Oh it&#8217;s because they have never studied engineering that&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>I am also looking forward to electricity prices jumping up to $1,000,000 per kilowatt next time we have some sort of a crisis/disaster. Instead of rushing to the grocery store to get canned food, we&#8217;ll all go home and recharge our batteries.</p>
<p>The gazillion dollar question on my mind is: What is the benefit of all this? Are our household electricity costs too high? So once this smart stuff is there, I should expect to pay at most like $5 per month for electricity, right? Because if I&#8217;m still gonna pay the same $50, I am voting NO for the smart grid.</p>
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		<title>By: Smart grid and renewables interconnection (Part 4 of 5) &#171; Knowledge Problem</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/03/03/a-smart-grid-is-a-transactive-grid-part-2-of-5/#comment-7647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smart grid and renewables interconnection (Part 4 of 5) &#171; Knowledge Problem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Recommendations for smart grid policy (Part 5 of 5) &#171; Knowledge Problem</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/03/03/a-smart-grid-is-a-transactive-grid-part-2-of-5/#comment-7643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Recommendations for smart grid policy (Part 5 of 5) &#171; Knowledge Problem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sean Casten</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/03/03/a-smart-grid-is-a-transactive-grid-part-2-of-5/#comment-7640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean Casten]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kirk,

I&#039;m not suggesting technological development isn&#039;t important - just that it isn&#039;t necessary as an area of focus, in the sense that with regulatory reform, markets will pull technologies forward.  (They&#039;ll still be developed, to be sure, it&#039;s just that they will come from a pull rather than a push strategy.)  But absent market reform, tech development is a waste of time.  All the smart meters in the world won&#039;t give regulated utilities an economic interest in energy conservation, and all the high-frequency data encryption in A/C power flows won&#039;t do anything to affect the liquidity of merchant power markets.  I&#039;m not suggesting we don&#039;t need a cart and a horse - simply that we don&#039;t confuse the sequence of the two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting technological development isn&#8217;t important &#8211; just that it isn&#8217;t necessary as an area of focus, in the sense that with regulatory reform, markets will pull technologies forward.  (They&#8217;ll still be developed, to be sure, it&#8217;s just that they will come from a pull rather than a push strategy.)  But absent market reform, tech development is a waste of time.  All the smart meters in the world won&#8217;t give regulated utilities an economic interest in energy conservation, and all the high-frequency data encryption in A/C power flows won&#8217;t do anything to affect the liquidity of merchant power markets.  I&#8217;m not suggesting we don&#8217;t need a cart and a horse &#8211; simply that we don&#8217;t confuse the sequence of the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Smart grid technology, economics, and policy (Part 1 of 5) &#171; Knowledge Problem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smart grid technology, economics, and policy (Part 1 of 5) &#171; Knowledge Problem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] A smart grid is a transactive grid (Part 2 of 5) &#171; Knowledge Problem on  March 3, 2009 [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A smart grid is a transactive grid (Part 2 of 5) &laquo; Knowledge Problem on  March 3, 2009 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Intelligent end-use devices make a transactive smart grid valuable (Part 3 of 5) &#171; Knowledge Problem</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/03/03/a-smart-grid-is-a-transactive-grid-part-2-of-5/#comment-7593</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Intelligent end-use devices make a transactive smart grid valuable (Part 3 of 5) &#171; Knowledge Problem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] consumption, either manually or automatically, in the home or remotely. In yesterday&#8217;s post about a transactive smart grid I invoked our imaginations of a potential vibrant future electricity industry: &#8230; imagine what [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] consumption, either manually or automatically, in the home or remotely. In yesterday&#8217;s post about a transactive smart grid I invoked our imaginations of a potential vibrant future electricity industry: &#8230; imagine what [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Dameron</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/03/03/a-smart-grid-is-a-transactive-grid-part-2-of-5/#comment-7589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirk Dameron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Sean

I&#039;m doing this again to correct a typographic problem.  Em-dashes I inserted in the above comment were interpreted by the comment application HTML as hyphens -- which made the text hard to read.  Hope this is better.  

The technology side is important because it is low-cost and ubiquitous technology -– embedded human “knowledge” in capital -- that enables humans within the socialsphere to easily take advantage of the exchange market Lynne is speaking of. Of course, political and regulatory reform are also absolutely vital. The absence of a “rules-of-the-game” environment in which the technology may be utilized will inevitably gum up the works and impede market transactions. So I see it as more of a BOTH/AND situation and not an EITHER/OR. Both technology and regulatory reform are essential.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean</p>
<p>I&#8217;m doing this again to correct a typographic problem.  Em-dashes I inserted in the above comment were interpreted by the comment application HTML as hyphens &#8212; which made the text hard to read.  Hope this is better.  </p>
<p>The technology side is important because it is low-cost and ubiquitous technology -– embedded human “knowledge” in capital &#8212; that enables humans within the socialsphere to easily take advantage of the exchange market Lynne is speaking of. Of course, political and regulatory reform are also absolutely vital. The absence of a “rules-of-the-game” environment in which the technology may be utilized will inevitably gum up the works and impede market transactions. So I see it as more of a BOTH/AND situation and not an EITHER/OR. Both technology and regulatory reform are essential.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Dameron</title>
		<link>http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/03/03/a-smart-grid-is-a-transactive-grid-part-2-of-5/#comment-7588</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirk Dameron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Sean.

The technology side is important because it is low-cost and ubiquitous technology--embedded human &quot;knowledge&quot; in capital--that enables humans within the socialsphere to easily take advantage of the exchange market Lynne is speaking of.  Of course, political and regulatory reform are also absolutely vital.  The absence of a &quot;rules-of-the-game&quot; environment in which the technology may be utilized will inevitably gum up the works and impede market transactions.  So I see it as more of a BOTH/AND situation and not an EITHER/OR.  Both technology and regulatory reform are essential.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean.</p>
<p>The technology side is important because it is low-cost and ubiquitous technology&#8211;embedded human &#8220;knowledge&#8221; in capital&#8211;that enables humans within the socialsphere to easily take advantage of the exchange market Lynne is speaking of.  Of course, political and regulatory reform are also absolutely vital.  The absence of a &#8220;rules-of-the-game&#8221; environment in which the technology may be utilized will inevitably gum up the works and impede market transactions.  So I see it as more of a BOTH/AND situation and not an EITHER/OR.  Both technology and regulatory reform are essential.</p>
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		<title>By: The right kind of stimulus? Redux &#171; tangents and digressions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The right kind of stimulus? Redux &#171; tangents and digressions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] really could use a “smart grid” that allowed for real-time pricing of energy based on demand. (See Lynne Kiesling on the “transactive” potential of the smart grid.) Markets are known to be the best mechanism available for efficiently allocating resources, and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] really could use a “smart grid” that allowed for real-time pricing of energy based on demand. (See Lynne Kiesling on the “transactive” potential of the smart grid.) Markets are known to be the best mechanism available for efficiently allocating resources, and [...]</p>
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